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I'm planning a new workshop, it will be aprox. 4.5m long by 3m wide.

Is it best to have two rows of fluorescent tubes running the length or having them across the width.
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Ian,
I think you will need to supply a bit more info. to allow anyone to give you an informed opinion...
Where are your machine tools in relation to the 4.5 x 3 footprint? Will the tubes be the only light source, or will you have additional lights on your machine tooling?
Where is your work bench; along the 4.5 length, or across the 3m width?
I'm sure there will be many suggestions on this topic, but I have always found that it's best to have plenty of light above and to the front of where you are working, so you don't get shadows on your working area.
From a pragmatic viewpoint, you could always just wire up a few lights, move them to different positions and see what works for you. At least it's pretty easy moving light fittings around..
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If you can incorporate a few strategically placed skylights into the roof you'll have free full spectrum ambient light to start with! Well for a few days of the year anyway... Then you've got your artificial light requirement split between ambient lighting and task lighting. A lot depends on how you place your kit. Any chance of a sketched floor plan? I find myself continually shifting the Anglepoise lamp around as I'm working to remove obscurant shadow angles, glare and reflections. Wall mounted busbar/track lighting with those re-positionable clip in luminaires might find a useful place here. Is colour rendering important?

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i would use High frequancy fittings to stop the sinking between lights & rotating tools, also if you use the Click light plugs & sockets you could move the lights about to suit your needs

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I would add that one of the most important things is to paint the workshop walls and ceiling white. Cheap silk emulsion is ideal. Helps no end! I also use "sunlight" spec fluorescent tubes, I find the colour balance is better for the workshop.

To give you an idea, in my small 2.8m x 2.4m workshop, I have 4 off 58W, 4 foot HF fluorescents. These are enough for 99% of what I do, including lathe work. For occasional really small stuff, I use a cheapo 20W halogen desklamp to get better local lighting on the bench as well. If you don't have the option of the white ceiling, you may need more however.  I have these in two rows over the benchs each side of the workshop. This leaves the central area clear for turning larger sheet material.

This will all depend on your age as well, I've certainly needed more light as I've moved well into middle age!

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When I was planning to build a new workshop I read a few articles that had appeared in the M.E. etc. over the years regarding the design and desirability of certain features, and as far as I can recall 12 years hence, most recommended admitting as much natural light as possible, especially over the lathe. As my previous shed had relatively high windows, which were always shaded by walls and trees, I took the advice of the writers. What a mistake!! It may be my eyesight and the way I see things, but I find natural light a damn nuisance when working on my lathe in broad daylight through the 4' x 3' window it stands behind (I really must fit a blind one day!!). So if I ever build another workshop there will be as little natuaral light as possible admitted. Also, the writers of the workshop articles warned against flourescent lighting due to the stroboscopic effect it may have on rotating machinery. Although I cannot argue with the laws of physics, from my experience and to all intents and purposes, the warnings can be totally dis-regarded in my humble opinion. I had two double flourecents in my previous smaller workshop and I have four double flourescents with diffusers in my present 13' x 21' larger workshop and I can't say I have ever detected any noticable stroboscopic effect whatever speed the lathe or milling machine happens to be rotating. I have anglepoise lamps with the highest possible wattage bulbs over every machine, but even with these extinguished, I have never noticed any adverse optical effect. Is it just me??

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Hi,
I would recommend as much natural light as possible, this wants to be from above not shining in through a window onto a machine where you are operating said machine from the opposite side.
Artificial light, if possible use high frequency fluorescents as general/back ground lighting with local (low voltage) lighting on the machines.
Fluorescent lights max height about 4m above this requires low bay luminaries, higher still requires high bay luminaries.
Lighting above work benches, dependant upon location of bench, with access to both sides of bench the lights require to be over the centre of the bench. Bench along a wall, lighting require to be over head and between your working position and the wall.
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Oh well, apparently it is just me! That'll teach me to follow the advice of so-called experts, what do they know anyway? LOL!

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Chris,
I assume that the light is in your eyes when you’re using the lathe. A possible solution, depending if the sun is in your eyes, is to use emulsion paint and paint over part of the window where the sun is. Another expensive solution is to try a polarizing film, there is a difference between horizontal and vertical polarization, don’t know which is to be preferred.
I’m on expert just info picked up from installing lighting. After all an expert is – ex, as in Has Been, and spert a drip under pressure.

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If I can through in my arrangement for consideration.
I have a number of fluorescents but hung on cord to hooks on the rafters so I can re arrange them depending on the job and any changes in layout. Each machine and bench has an angle poise type light (each one different as I have acquired them) . The main window has a white venetian blind ( ex the bathroom) which is very good in making the best of the light and adjusting to get rid if the glare. I doubt I could justify buying one though had it not been no longer required. The other window I have given one coat of emulsion, but not for the glare but for prying eyes as it is onto the back access, if you can see out who can see in?
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Best thing is not to have any one light for an area and to over lap them this dimishs the shadow from one light, the best is when you have 3 lights almost over head, remember most fluorescent are atleast 4' long so unless you are the size of John Prescott some should beable to get over the bench, lathe or equipment.
One word of warning if placing a light over a lathe, it needs to be IP44ish or make sure it's not over the working area as one loose chipping or coolant spray can cause havoc.

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I have just completed converting my garage to a workshop & in the process of kitting it out with new lathe & mill. The lighting I have fitted consists of 3 x1 mtre flourescents 'luminaire non-corrosive' ADP 136/HF with 36W lamps, rated at IP 65 & conforming to 'part P' regs, with clip on diffusers, plus 2x Astro AA28/HF bulkhead fittings. IP 65.  I will need to have direct lighting over ea.machine so I will be using 2 spotlights ( 1 clip on flexi & 1 flexi tabletop) possibly need to get a couple more spots when I get my bench layout sorted.

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Have att. photos of my installed lighting (hope these appear as it is 1st time uploading!)
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I'm not sure that putting strip lights in a corner makes the best use of the light they produce.

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use free sunlight wherever possible-ie abroad...
the stroboscopic effect of flourescents when used in a moving machinery enviroment is only an issue
in industry ,as lighting circuits are generally spread over three phases-
a few lights in a domestic single phase supplied workshop are not an issue.
enjoy the workshop!!
i,ve not been out of mine much -except to race aged iron since it was completed

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